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We Are Already Overrun

Lost in the self-congratulation of the border being locked down, and credit where due as that is an enormous achievement although decades too late, is the First Big Lie of immigration: closing the border fixes the problem. No, locking the border now is like closing the barn door after the horses get out, except in reverse. It needed to be done but it doesn’t solve the problem because the illegal alien problem is not over the border in Mexico, it is already here.

The First Big Lie is an easy one especially for normiecons who repeat the mantra “as long as they come legally”. That is the Second Big Lie: the problem with immigration is that so many people, some tens of millions, are in this country illegally. The problem is not that they are here but that they “didn’t come in the right way, like my great-great-great-grandpappy when he came through Ellis Island”.

The legal status of these invaders is not the problem.

Their very presence in our country is the problem.

This news broke yesterday.

Trump administration to rescreen 55 MILLION visa holders in dramatic deportation escalation

Just look at the headline. There are as many as 55 million foreigners in America on visas, meaning that they at the very least came here initially “the right way”

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again? : r/Makemeagif

Are there actually 55 million foreigners here on a visa? I am not sure but however you slice it, tens of millions of people are here for whatever reason.

The review of all visa holders appears to be a significant expansion of what had initially been a process focused mainly on students who have been involved in what the government perceives as pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel activity.

Officials say the reviews will include all visa holders’ social media accounts, law enforcement and immigration records in their home countries, along with any actionable violations of U.S. law committed while they were in the United States.

‘As part of the Trump Administration’s commitment to protect U.S. national security and public safety, since Inauguration Day the State Department has revoked more than twice as many visas, including nearly four times as many student visas, as during the same time period last year,’ the State Department said.

The vast majority of foreigners seeking to come to the U.S. require visas, especially those who want to study or work for extended periods.

Are the people of the United States benefitting from having these tens of millions of people hanging around here? Of course not. “But what about the tourism money?” some might say. I would retort that we might have more domestic tourism if it weren’t so damn crowded with foreigners at our tourism destinations.

Between work visas and student visas and whatever else, there are as many as 55 million foreigners in America. Add in the likely 30 million illegal aliens and you have 85 million foreigners in the U.S. There are only around 342 million people in the U.S. as of the current census projections but that doesn’t include (hopefully) most of the illegal aliens and foreign citizens here on visas. That means that there are almost one quarter as many foreigners here as there are citizens/permanent residents.

That is hard to wrap your mind around. Imagine it this way. You have a town of 400 people. Then 100 people from a different town suddenly move in, using the towns streets and stores and schools but not contributing in a meaningful way to the upkeep of the town. It would cause resentment and anger and maybe more. When you expand that out into numbers like “55 million” and “85 millions” and “342 million”, it becomes so vast that it is an abstraction and not real. But it is real, very real.

Again, the number might not be, probably is not, really 55 million but it certainly is in the tens of millions. Also keep in mind that the media intentionally and willfully underreports the number of illegals, citing figures that were out of date when I was in college. All of these tens of millions of people living here can also have children while here, even on a travel or business visa, and those children magically become American citizens and are just as American as you or I according to our overlords.

Our nation is overly full as it is, between “legal” and illegal aliens, and it needs to change. A functional nation cannot have tens of millions of foreigners stumbling around. This move by Trump is one of those things that are actually doing some small amount of good unlike the endless pandering to Israel and poking at Russia.

35 Comments

  1. TakeAHardLook

    Want all illegals/visa overstayers/students with visas who no longer attend (or never attended) college to exit our Nation?

    End all EBT & similar food subsidies, rent subsidies, free education, free phones, free health care and subsidized homes/favorable business loans.

    Basically, end every possible source of unearned gibs from all Fed/State/local treasuries–all originally funded by the tax dollars of We, the People.

    “#EndTheGibs” immediately, across the board, for all of the above classes. Those programs may continue, but only for bona fide U.S. citizens.

    [The above is so SIMPLE, so devastatingly EFFECTIVE, so FAIR to We, the People that it will NEVER be applied}.

    • ghostsniper

      Yes!
      I’ll add 2 more:

      1. Pay a $100 reward to any legal citizen that fingers an illegal.

      2. Charge any employer $100k, payable immediately, for any illegal in their employ.

      Do our 3 suggestions and the fence will be torn down by all the illegals trying to escape.

  2. Useless Eater

    I’m guessing those “55 million” aren’t counted in the census, but the “30 million” might be, most likely are. Of course there’s some bleedover. Maybe a lot of it. Some of those folks here on whatever kind of visa overstay it, and overstay it, and become one of the “30 million,” and get counted on the census, and vote etc.

    It’s great that they are reporting 1.6 million have already self deported, but we can’t expect that to continue. The ones still here obviously aren’t as eager to leave.

    Unfortunately I’m too old to be an ICE Deportation Officer. Their max age for new hires is 40, and I’m more than a decade beyond. I wouldn’t have minded deporting folks and getting those sweet federal benefits while I do it. Not a lot of basic requirements otherwise, have to be legal citizen (duh), eligible to carry a firearm, pass a phys fitness test, have a drivers license, medical screening, pretty basic stuff. They’ll train ya.

    • Arthur Sido

      I would think it would be a mentally exhausting job but not as bad as being a Border Patrol agent in the booths at the borders, that would drive me to drink it no time.

  3. Georgiaboy61

    The very fact that tens of millions of illegal aliens are now in the U.S. ought to give any patriotic American pause for reflection, but the trouble is that much of the business leadership community – the folks who run Fortune 500 firms – regard loyalty to one’s nation as a hopelessly archaic idea.

    A few years ago, a financial reporter was interviewing one of the “Big Three” auto executives, it was GM – whereupon the executive was asked about how he viewed the company. He replied that the company was no longer “American” as they did as much business in the PRC as in the U.S. and that the firm per se owed no alliance to the country in which it was founded. Those are not his precise words, but they are close-enough.

    Those tens of millions of illegals, you see, are not “aliens” to Wall Street – they’re customers. And the Fortune 500 when push comes to shove, doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about Americans or American interests if it interferes with the bottom line.

    Which is why those self-same businesses and their lobbyists will act to prevent meaningful action towards deporting all of those illegals already here. Congress is a dog-and-pony show and doesn’t run anything; the big multinationals, mega-banks and the billionaires do.

    The Reconquesta is over – and the Mexicans won. It is even money who will end up running things in these former United States: The Mexicans and their pals from Latin America; the Chinese from the PRC; or the Muslims. It should be a real barn-burner watching them sort it out… pass the popcorn!

    • Arthur Sido

      This is one of the bitterest pills to swallow, for decades White conservatives have voted GOP and thought that what was good for the business world was good for Americans while it turned out that Big Business cheerfully fucked over the average American without a second thought.

  4. Georgiaboy61

    Re: “It is even money who will end up running things in these former United States: The Mexicans and their pals from Latin America; the Chinese from the PRC; or the Muslims.”

    One more possibility – the Indians and Pakistanis. Forgot to include them, but they are flooding into the U.S. – and Canada, too – in dramatic fashion.

  5. fourth world turd

    Palookaville expansion of lifetime Section 8 in what used to be rural route farmland is all replacements.
    NO room for commie RAT POS, useful idiot or fellow traveler.

  6. LargeMarge

    1992, LtC Bo Gritz crafted his ‘Bill Of Gritz’.
    Three decades ago, this combat veteran and retired Special Forces officer advised:
    .. closing the Mexico border
    .. audit Federal Reserve Bankers as they rot in prison
    .. reestablish Constitutional currency and the gold standard
    .. evict every ILLxGxL (in my fantasy, I use a trebuchet every hundred paces along our borders)
    .. terminate bumblebrats in Education Department and a few dozen other BureauOfJustifyingOurExistence jobs-for-life
    .. terminate the foreign-aid skim-scam
    … and an entire host of reductions at every level of every government everyplace.
    .
    https://youtu.be/9y4vY21qkD0?si=BxTi65qbgrBN3XQH

  7. ozark homesteader

    Everything is going according to The Plan (TM). A few highlights in no special order:

    Destroy the economy, the middle class and infrastructure with a massive invasion.

    Dangle kumzilla and tampon tim as candidates for Pres and VP and everyone rushes to vote for cheetojew in a landslide. We’re gonna make ‘merica great again! Welcome to The Golden Age!

    Real ID is finally, after several years put in place. Palantir surveillance, cryptos and CBDC’s all being set in order (tied to social credit scores via aforementioned palantir, dontcha know), no arrests of the covid genocide crowd, no arrests of the elite pedro ring that has worked tirelessly to destroy The West and Whites, no arrests of the J6 committee. Nothing. (john bolton searched yesterday…big whoop. No mp5’s, no solitary confinement, no avalanche of arrests of about 5,000 other deep state criminals).

    The OPTICS of the border issue are solved in the minds of the devout Talmudvision watchers. Ok. We put on a fresh pair of socks, but there is still a blister the size of a walnut on that foot-the problem is hardly solved.

    “Oh, man, we tried to———fill in the blank but the judge over ruled us”. Delay tactics. All part of the plan. “Keep them in their seats and off the streets.” No real change. No effective solutions and consequences.

    I could go on, as could most of us here, but I’ve only had one cup of coffee, and I need to feed the dogs.

    The end of the fairy tale is this country is phooked. Hard and badly. Divergent on three axes, as Gen Chuck Yeager would have said.

  8. Moe Gibbs

    I never understood the nonsensical notion of birthright citizenship. A parasite lays an egg in a host organism and suddenly that egg is, by divine right, the offspring of that organism? A maggot in a bedsore now owns the body? What insanity! I can’t imagine the mindset that came up with this ludicrous and self-destructive policy. If you sneak into the country illegally, you are a criminal, yet the sprog you shit out while hiding here is a legal ‘citizen’? Madness.

    The gravy train must end. This is as obvious as the crucial need for separation of the races. Peace in the land will never be achieved until these two goals are fulfilled.

    • Useless Eater

      It’s a holdover from a young country, founded by settlers, that was trying to grow its population. You’ll notice that old, established countries don’t have birthright citizenship laws.

    • Laughing Gator

      That birthright citizenship BS is a purposeful misreading of the 14th Amendment that gave the African slaves citizenship (which in my opinion was a horrible mistake, Lincoln’s idea of sending them all to Liberia was the ticket).

      On this the Trump admin is right and is trying to get this to the Supreme Court where they’ll do their usual NOTHING.

      • chopper

        The 13th, 14th and 15th amendments weren’t legally ratified anyway.
        The Southern states were under military rule and had no elected representatives in government. Therefore those amendments couldn’t be legally ratified

    • Steady Steve

      “Birth right citizenship” is a fiction that has been allowed and “accepted”in a legal sense. The truth is that ( if one takes the time to read original documents concerning the 14th Amendment) this was never the intent when the 14th Amendment was crafted. Birth right citizenship is just another big lie of the left in order to create more voters.

    • Lineman

      Sounds like it happens to the best of us all the time Sister…Glitch in the Matrix or something more sinister???
      Just want to add that what do you do when you are being overrun if of course you want to survive…I think everyone knows the answer they just have a million excuses of why they can’t do it…

      • 3g4me

        They just added Spanish to the ATM machine at our local bank – in a town of 1100. Central American indios have already over- run a town 50 miles to the west (meat plant of course) but I don’t know of any that live here – perhaps 1-2 actually in town but none out in the woods anywhere near us. But where I used to just put my card in the ATM, now I have to choose English. Massively pisses me off.

        Had my kid set up a local bank account (never moving again, and there are no branches of the big name bank we used (for convenience’s sake only) back in Texas in our current state. To simplify things, I called ahead with questions. Locally, I talked with lovely, courteous, and helpful heritage Americans. On the phone with Texas, I spoke with . . . Iranians. Who told us to just walk into a local branch, after I had told them there wasn’t one in hundreds of miles, hence my call.

        Blessed to be away from that sh*t, but it creeps ever closer. Saw a story online today about a group of noggers – including one from Texas – camping out in the woods in Scotland and claiming they wuz kangs. I just don’t care if I offend anyone, so it’s a good thing I’m out of the ‘burbs and away from the worst of diversity. An old Vietnam vet sat next to me at the local tire place a few days ago (I am a magnet for getting damn flat tires) and told me all about his exploits, and how he had been helping place some trafficked alien kids. I was polite, but got him to admit that being born in China wouldn’t make him Chinese. “But they have nowhere to go” he said. “Let their own people care for them – they are not our responsibility.” That actually made him sit and think a bit.

        To restore the remnants of heritage America would require the forced deportation of not merely approximately 40 million ‘illegals’ and 50 million ‘visa holders, but every non-White immigrant since 1965 – and their children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. Plus all the blacks and Jews. Almost no one – even on the purported ‘dissident right’ has the stones to do what’s necessary. I don’t see it happening.

        So the only thing I can do is do my best to best position my family and friends to survive what’s coming. If not in my lifetime, definitely in theirs.

        • ozark homesteader

          The same people that insisted on destroying the Saxon warrior class in WWII would never allow anyone come to power that would ever dare to do anything meaningful to prevent the destruction of the White race.

          Wait till all the evangelicals find out they didn’t earn any extra credit for worshiping at the feet of their destroyers.

        • DeplorableGranny

          We need to pool our money together and buy a huge piece of land and create and HOA with 1 rule. You must be white to live on the land or inherit the property period.

          • ozark homesteader

            I appreciate the sentiment, no question. But they wouldn’t stay out of Europe. They wouldn’t stay out of America. Everywhere one could go, they will follow and insist and thieve and destroy and aggravate and provoke.

            Even in South Africa where Whites have tried to re segregate, the neebros are offended, of course, and are trying to destroy the settlements with their presence.

            They have all learned to hate and resent Whites from their judeo-communist masters. They blame us for everything, yet they insist themselves into every environment.

            Sadly, efforts at isolation are much as Art puts it “being on the last train at the Gulag still puts you at the Gulag…”

            Whites have one real option, and it ain’t giving up.

            Meanwhile, the AI centers coming on line are going to drain the electrical grid empty, so if you have a well, a generator might be prudent. The AI centers will also require vast quantities of water. If you look, you can still get portable, above ground cisterns for around a buck a gallon if you look hard enough. There’s an outfit in Texas that prices them FOB pretty cheap if you’re close enough with a trailer to pick them up.

            Yesterday I was hearing about a communist group in AMERICA that is about 1.3 million strong that plans a violent overthrow of America following the ’26 elections.

            The chili is simmering now. It’ll be ready to sit down and eat before we know it. Don’t forget the cornbread and butter.

            • DeplorableGranny

              I wasn’t suggesting that as the final step. That was step 1. After we tribe up anyone coming into the area that does not belong to the tribe, SSS, then get created to slowly encourage those in the surrounding area that do not belong, convince them that they would be better off back in their native land.

              • Shooter

                I generally despise HOAs but I really like the sound of this one. Oh, and love the trebuchet idea. I may be old and crippled but I would cheerfully voluntereer to fire one for long shifts. Just give me a couple of soon to be projectiles and I’ll provide the firearms to keep them from being rowdy. Might lose one from time to time but hey. Plenty of replacements. They can be kept in a steel cage out back. Mantrap door so they can’t swarm like they prefer.

                My fantasy is to put ALL legal and illegal scum on free cruise ships. Ones that come back to the U.S. empty of passengers. Fuel could be saved by just turning around a couple hundred miles from shore. That may sound a bit, well, harsh but with Saxon, Norman, Viking and German blood in me I come by it honestly. Oh, yes, important detail. Some 5 inch quick firers around the railing would be nice along with some 20mm anti-aircraft guns to repel NGOs attempting to interfere.

                Shooter

  9. Bobsuruncle

    All legal immigration needs fixed.

    Lower quotas.
    Add a means test including financial just like almost every other country has.
    Ban certain countries based on values and beliefs contradictory to the constitution.
    Narrow the area of probability on selectees, aka profiling and ban them.
    Give them counter-intelligence polygraph screenings. It really doesnt take long must be done before granting citizenship.
    Must know the language prior to awarding citizenship at least a 2/2 level.
    Must go through extensive driver training.
    Cannot be eligible for any free gibs for ten years, unemployment included.
    End anchor baby interpretation.
    Must perform community service during immigration process.
    Must be able to eat a bacon double-cheeseburger and large fries.

    • 3g4me

      You’re overthinking this – sole people eligible for immigration must be of 90+% White European Christian ancestry. Then check their social media history (to avoid leftists/globalists) and their work history (no indigents, no one who wants to set up a craft coffee shop or ethnic restaurant, etc.).

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