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We Are Already Overrun

Lost in the self-congratulation of the border being locked down, and credit where due as that is an enormous achievement although decades too late, is the First Big Lie of immigration: closing the border fixes the problem. No, locking the border now is like closing the barn door after the horses get out, except in reverse. It needed to be done but it doesn’t solve the problem because the illegal alien problem is not over the border in Mexico, it is already here.

The First Big Lie is an easy one especially for normiecons who repeat the mantra “as long as they come legally”. That is the Second Big Lie: the problem with immigration is that so many people, some tens of millions, are in this country illegally. The problem is not that they are here but that they “didn’t come in the right way, like my great-great-great-grandpappy when he came through Ellis Island”.

The legal status of these invaders is not the problem.

Their very presence in our country is the problem.

This news broke yesterday.

Trump administration to rescreen 55 MILLION visa holders in dramatic deportation escalation

Just look at the headline. There are as many as 55 million foreigners in America on visas, meaning that they at the very least came here initially “the right way”

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again? : r/Makemeagif

Are there actually 55 million foreigners here on a visa? I am not sure but however you slice it, tens of millions of people are here for whatever reason.

The review of all visa holders appears to be a significant expansion of what had initially been a process focused mainly on students who have been involved in what the government perceives as pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel activity.

Officials say the reviews will include all visa holders’ social media accounts, law enforcement and immigration records in their home countries, along with any actionable violations of U.S. law committed while they were in the United States.

‘As part of the Trump Administration’s commitment to protect U.S. national security and public safety, since Inauguration Day the State Department has revoked more than twice as many visas, including nearly four times as many student visas, as during the same time period last year,’ the State Department said.

The vast majority of foreigners seeking to come to the U.S. require visas, especially those who want to study or work for extended periods.

Are the people of the United States benefitting from having these tens of millions of people hanging around here? Of course not. “But what about the tourism money?” some might say. I would retort that we might have more domestic tourism if it weren’t so damn crowded with foreigners at our tourism destinations.

Between work visas and student visas and whatever else, there are as many as 55 million foreigners in America. Add in the likely 30 million illegal aliens and you have 85 million foreigners in the U.S. There are only around 342 million people in the U.S. as of the current census projections but that doesn’t include (hopefully) most of the illegal aliens and foreign citizens here on visas. That means that there are almost one quarter as many foreigners here as there are citizens/permanent residents.

That is hard to wrap your mind around. Imagine it this way. You have a town of 400 people. Then 100 people from a different town suddenly move in, using the towns streets and stores and schools but not contributing in a meaningful way to the upkeep of the town. It would cause resentment and anger and maybe more. When you expand that out into numbers like “55 million” and “85 millions” and “342 million”, it becomes so vast that it is an abstraction and not real. But it is real, very real.

Again, the number might not be, probably is not, really 55 million but it certainly is in the tens of millions. Also keep in mind that the media intentionally and willfully underreports the number of illegals, citing figures that were out of date when I was in college. All of these tens of millions of people living here can also have children while here, even on a travel or business visa, and those children magically become American citizens and are just as American as you or I according to our overlords.

Our nation is overly full as it is, between “legal” and illegal aliens, and it needs to change. A functional nation cannot have tens of millions of foreigners stumbling around. This move by Trump is one of those things that are actually doing some small amount of good unlike the endless pandering to Israel and poking at Russia.

4 Comments

  1. TakeAHardLook

    Want all illegals/visa overstayers/students with visas who no longer attend (or never attended) college to exit our Nation?

    End all EBT & similar food subsidies, rent subsidies, free education, free phones, free health care and subsidized homes/favorable business loans.

    Basically, end every possible source of unearned gibs from all Fed/State/local treasuries–all originally funded by the tax dollars of We, the People.

    “#EndTheGibs” immediately, across the board, for all of the above classes. Those programs may continue, but only for bona fide U.S. citizens.

    [The above is so SIMPLE, so devastatingly EFFECTIVE, so FAIR to We, the People that it will NEVER be applied}.

  2. Useless Eater

    I’m guessing those “55 million” aren’t counted in the census, but the “30 million” might be, most likely are. Of course there’s some bleedover. Maybe a lot of it. Some of those folks here on whatever kind of visa overstay it, and overstay it, and become one of the “30 million,” and get counted on the census, and vote etc.

    It’s great that they are reporting 1.6 million have already self deported, but we can’t expect that to continue. The ones still here obviously aren’t as eager to leave.

    Unfortunately I’m too old to be an ICE Deportation Officer. Their max age for new hires is 40, and I’m more than a decade beyond. I wouldn’t have minded deporting folks and getting those sweet federal benefits while I do it. Not a lot of basic requirements otherwise, have to be legal citizen (duh), eligible to carry a firearm, pass a phys fitness test, have a drivers license, medical screening, pretty basic stuff. They’ll train ya.

  3. Georgiaboy61

    The very fact that tens of millions of illegal aliens are now in the U.S. ought to give any patriotic American pause for reflection, but the trouble is that much of the business leadership community – the folks who run Fortune 500 firms – regard loyalty to one’s nation as a hopelessly archaic idea.

    A few years ago, a financial reporter was interviewing one of the “Big Three” auto executives, it was GM – whereupon the executive was asked about how he viewed the company. He replied that the company was no longer “American” as they did as much business in the PRC as in the U.S. and that the firm per se owed no alliance to the country in which it was founded. Those are not his precise words, but they are close-enough.

    Those tens of millions of illegals, you see, are not “aliens” to Wall Street – they’re customers. And the Fortune 500 when push comes to shove, doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about Americans or American interests if it interferes with the bottom line.

    Which is why those self-same businesses and their lobbyists will act to prevent meaningful action towards deporting all of those illegals already here. Congress is a dog-and-pony show and doesn’t run anything; the big multinationals, mega-banks and the billionaires do.

    The Reconquesta is over – and the Mexicans won. It is even money who will end up running things in these former United States: The Mexicans and their pals from Latin America; the Chinese from the PRC; or the Muslims. It should be a real barn-burner watching them sort it out… pass the popcorn!

  4. Georgiaboy61

    Re: “It is even money who will end up running things in these former United States: The Mexicans and their pals from Latin America; the Chinese from the PRC; or the Muslims.”

    One more possibility – the Indians and Pakistanis. Forgot to include them, but they are flooding into the U.S. – and Canada, too – in dramatic fashion.

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