For most of my life as a political and cultural observer, there has been a constant in American politics: unwavering support for Israel. During those decades I mostly took it for granted that Israel was “the only democracy in the Middle East” and “Our Greatest Ally”. Pat Buchanan was kneecapped as a political figure in the GOP because he failed to be sufficiently obsequious toward Israel. Politicians have for decades make a groveling pilgrimage to Israel where men who claimed to be Christians put on those silly little skullcaps, violated 1 Corinthians 11:4-7 and pretended to pray at some random wall in Jerusalem. Almost no one found this behavior odd or bizarre. Nor did many ask why one foreign nation was able to have an enormous army of lobbyists that clearly had massive influence over our politicians but were not required to register as foreign lobbyists even though their sole purpose was to influence American elected officials on behalf of Israel.
The pattern has repeated over and over. Israel claims some existential crisis, bombs the crap out of civilians and America either looks the other way or more often cheerleads them on. We are told that the people in the Middle East hate us, and cheered when the World Trade center towers collapsed, because they hate “our freedom” but what they really hate is that we are the muscle that protects Israel from any consequences of their actions.
A lesser known fact about American support for Israel is that it doesn’t really mostly come from Jews who make up only a small percentage of the American electorate. Indeed some of the most ardent anti-Zionists are leftist Jews. Where Israel gets most of her support is from White evangelicals that have been fed a steady diet of Zionist nonsense in the form of dispensational eschatology. Even in churches that are not overtly dispensational, the core ideas of dispensationalism regarding Israel are deeply embedded. American evangelicals talk about “Judeo-Christian values” even though that term itself is nonsensical.
That is all well and good but so what? Here is the so what. As most people know, Americans are rapidly becoming less religious. This is from 2022 from Pew Research….
If anything that chart wildly overstates the percentage of “Christians” in America. Talk to lots of Gen X or older Whites and they will say they are Christians but for them it is just a cultural marker. The percentage of Americans that actually are reasonably devout, attending services, reading their Bibles, etc is much lower than 63% and the really serious Christians who serve in their church, tell people about their faith, give significantly, is lower yet.
This is going to accelerate as religious affiliation varies dramatically by age. Also from Pew about a week after the one above was this article: About half of Americans in their 20s are Christian, compared with over 80% of the oldest Americans. That is a very significant change. Go to a smaller church, especially a mainline Protestant church or an older Catholic parish in a demographically altered city, and the place looks like a bingo hall. Everyone is old, many are women sitting alone who are either widows or divorced or their husbands just aren’t interested in sitting for an hour listening to an effeminate guy droning on. On the bright side the younger Christians I have come across are far more zealous and serious than Boomers and Gen Xers but on the downside there just aren’t that many of them.
That trend is very bad news for organized religion in America for a lot of reasons but the big one is money. What drives organized religion isn’t prayer or evangelism, it is the offering plate. I’ve been barking about this for a long time, there is a huge cost associated with having full time clergy and a big building that sits empty for 95% of the week. Smaller congregations will be the first to go under as their congregants die off but the mid-sized churches with a one or two hundred members won’t be able to keep operating as they once did for much longer. The prospects for the professional clerical class in America are pretty grim in the intermediate future.
This trend is also very bad news for Zionists. As I said, most of the grassroots support for Israel comes from White evangelicals. As Whites stop going to church, they are also not getting the Zionist propaganda from dispensational teachers. I haven’t been to a church of any sort for many years but I would bet that even in more conservative churches the yapping about Israel has diminished, at least I hope it has. Then something else happened.
October 7th
While most people were horrified by the attack, it wasn’t as many as might have been before. Still there was lots of sympathy and goodwill for Israel and most Americans were prepared to support an inevitable and reasonable response. What happened instead was that the Israeli government under Netanyahu went hog wild in killing off Palestinians in Gaza to the tune of tens of thousands dead, many more maimed and lots of women and children blown up, shot, starved to death, made homeless, etc.
To be clear, I don’t carry any water for the Palestinians, most of whom are probably terrible people that I have no interest in living near. Even still the slaughter has been over the top and what is more, lots of people in America see the Israeli response as drastically and criminally disproportionate. Many are also seeing this for what it really is, what Netanyahu perceives as a golden opportunity to depopulate Gaza and absorb the territory into Israel (See: The Inevitable End-Game).
Thanks to the reduced religiosity of Americans, suddenly sympathy for Israel seems to have gone in the toilet. Simplicius has a nice piece on this issue if you can filter out his over the top animus toward America: The Establishment Slowly Wearies of Netanyahu and Israel. He quotes neocon Jew Thomas Friedman writing in the Jew York Times, What Trump Should Keep in Mind on His Big Middle East Trip, emphasis mine…
I have no doubt that, generally speaking, the Israeli people continue to see themselves as steadfast allies of the American people — and vice versa. But this ultranationalist, messianic Israeli government is not America’s ally. Because this is the first government in Israel’s history whose priority is not peace with more of its Arab neighbors and the benefits that greater security and coexistence would bring. Its priority is the annexation of the West Bank, the expulsion of the Palestinians of Gaza and the re-establishment there of Israeli settlements.
That is a powerful statement about Our Greatest Ally. Keep in mind that the New York Times , along with the Washington Post, is an official party publication for “The Deep State”. They don’t publish an editorial that is this critical of Israel and Netanyahu without getting the green light from some important people.
Support for Palestinians and opposition to Israel, mostly by dimwits that couldn’t find the Levant on a map with both hands, has not diminished despite the arrests of various goat humpers and fat broad in hijabs. To the contrary, Trump looks silly and impotent as he fights in the courts to try to deport these people (that ought not be here in the first place) because of “antisemitism”. As anyone could have predicted, Trump is getting bogged down in minor squabbles while his main priorities are stymied both by the courts and by the treasonous GOP Congress that is doing absolutely nothing to advance the agenda that won them the White House and both chambers of Congress.
In short, as the religious landscape in America shifts radically, support for Israel is going to quickly evaporate. Certainly AIPAC and other Jewish supremacist outfits like the ADL will still bribe politicians and/or take photos of them in compromising situations but the reliable voting bloc that ensures Israel is never thwarted is going to disappear as older evangelical voters die off and younger voters who are majority irreligious and therefore have no perceived theological obligation to support Israel replace them.
The other side of this are the demographic changes that are sweeping through America like a tidal wave, changes ironically enough that were disproportionately championed by Jews. Support for Israel is mostly a White evangelical Protestant thing but other racial groups are not huge fans of Israel.
It is common knowledge that most blacks despise Jews, thanks mainly to Malcolm X, the Nation of Islam, Farrakhan and others pointing out that Jews have exploited blacks for a very long time, back to owning many of the ships used to transport slaves to the New World. I doubt you will find much support for Israel in an average group of blacks.
Mestizos are also unlikely to be sympathetic to Zionism. They are not likely to be Evangelical and even their purported traditional Catholicism (“natural conservatives”) is rapidly slipping.
When mestizos look at the conflict in Gaza, they are far more likely to see White presenting Israelis as the oppressors and the brown Palestinians as the oppressed. This is reinforced by the attempts to deport supporters of the people in Gaza. More generally it just isn’t something of that much concern for mestizos who are more concerned with immigration than they are with a conflict in the Middle East. With no theological basis for supporting Israel, it is reasonable to assume that when they think of the conflict at all they would side with the “oppressed” instead of the “oppressor”.
The secularization of America is generally considered by people on /ourside/ to be an unqualified disaster but if there is a silver lining it would be that America might finally break herself from our slavish devotion to the state of Israel. Without the support of the U.S. the nations of the Middle East can work things out for themselves. With any luck they will completely destroy each other while keeping us out of it.
U.S. support for Israel has been devastating for our country.
Let’s not BS ourselves, the wars over the last 25 years in the Middle East had ZERO benefit for us yet “coincidentally” all of the countries we were fighting were ALL countries Israel perceived as enemies.
We have spent TRILLIONS of dollars and 100s of thousands of troops killed and wounded (including ptsd and being suicidal) for those “little hat” supposed allies of ours.
YET, show me the treaty where we are supposedly do or die allies — There is NONE !
Israel has done absolutely NOTHING for us except murder our men in cold blood on the U.S. Liberty and support and sell weapons to our enemies. But they’ll say business is business and never get between a little hat and his shekels.
They openly bribe and blackmail almost everyone in our government and have minders in every congressman and senators office to TELL them how to vote. If you don’t go along with what they want, a fortune will go to your opponent in the primary to vote you out. They did this to several black democrat congressman last election who didn’t go along with what Nuttyahoo wanted. Like 25 million appeared in their opponent’s coffers along with high priced consultants to help them win — the price ? ALWAYS vote the way Israel wants.
For all of these reasons, I believe that instead of being our “Greatest Ally”, Israel is REALLY our Greatest ENEMY !!
I cheer for the Palestinians in Gaza for 1 main reason: unlike the bastards who go to Europe, those Gazans are nationalists who want to retain their ancient homelands and the Jews are determined to prevent them from doing so (sound familiar?).
Surely we can sympathize with those who have the same goals–preserve our lands and people, leave others alone–as we do.
Now, if the tried to come to Europe or the US if Gaza or the West Bank were still remotely livable I’d say beat ’em and send ’em back where they came from, but this is different.
The ones risking Izzy gunmen to try to show the world what’s really happening are like those who strove to show the West the truth about the Jew Kaganovich’s Ukrainian genocide. You gotta at least respect their courage and goals when their a mirrow image of our own.
I am tired of the 2ggs and the small hats. Over at ace of normies thou shall not mention anything bad about the “greatest ally”, because you’ll be banned. Always interesting.
The thing about Christianity, I believe, is that it has failed. Miserably. We are ignorant about what occurred in the first century A.D. I could say that is because God has done a piss-poor job of communicating across the centuries. But, I believe it is because Satan is smarter than mankind and has infiltrated all organized forms of “Christianity” since day one. Just look at Judas. Look at the writings of the original apostles and disciples. They are full of theological arguments that occurred in all the early Christian communities. Look at the early Roman church. It was a political and financial entity from the beginning. Anytime you combine politics and finance, you are just asking for corruption. One thing that was a strong point for the Catholic Church was its tradition. Society needs tradition to function properly. Even false tradition is better than no tradition at all, since it binds the generations together. Then came the Protestant Reformation. That, combined with moveable type printing, made the gospel available for everyone, not just what was passed down by the Catholic Church as doctrine. But, it also led to myriad denominations that differed from each other in minor ways. By the time we got to the “Enlightenment”, we had everybody and their dog either denying Christianity or accumulating nonsense. In the 19th century, you had “prophets” pretending to have discovered some ridiculous mysticism that just took bits and pieces from the Bible and combined them into a web of lies. Look at Joseph Smith and Darby of the Plymouth Brethren. Complete fantasies that appealed to those that need to believe they, and only they, know the “real truth”. Combine the decline of mainstream denominations and the jewish financial control of the world and you see that evil exists and rules. And this is how I came to believe in the inherent truth of the Messiah. Not because “good” exists, but because evil doesn’t even try to hide itself anymore and opposes any hint of Christianity.
To me, the original purpose of the Church was as much governmental in nature as spiritual. Mankind is required to rule Nature, not to worship it like Al Gore. And this is where you see Christianity failing. When Christianity was stronger, you executed murders and pedophiles. Now, Christianity only consists of “Love and Grace” and ignores the fact that Justice, Anger, Vengeance, and Punishment are also characteristics of God and are to be given equal priority. This is why Grandma Jones accepts her homo grandson because Ethan is a “good boy” and God would never want anyone to hate or punish him. This is why we give murderers and rapists 30 to 40 years of taxpayer funded housing, food, education, and entertainment, instead of executing them as God commanded and therefore bring a “curse upon the land”. Satan knows that he doesn’t need to fight God. He only needs to get his children to violate the Law and God punishes them accordingly. Breeding them out of existence by importing “strangers” and causing his children to violate the law through marriage with other races is his plan. He tries to defeat God by destroying his children. And Christians don’t teach this anymore. They don’t teach that God has been at war with evil for millennia and humans are to be his warriors, not enablers of stupidity and evil. That don’t teach that “kind” is to breed with its own “kind”, since that is what they were created for. And they don’t teach that Satan has his own children that war against God’s children. They don’t teach that the sons of Adam were created to have dominion over the planet and to follow the Law to avoid bringing confusion into the world. Christians are no longer “Christian Soldiers”. They are foolish pansies, accepting of every perversion so they will be liked, rather than stewards that know they will be hated for following the Law.
It is not the Evangelicals as a whole that are the grassroots support of Israel. Rather, it is the Boomer Evangelicals who do so.
When the Boomer generation goes to its reward, there will be such a massive upheaval that many would never believe.
Support for Israel will disappear like a fart in the wind. The ideas of an American “melting pot” will go away with violence.
De facto sun down towns will pop up for all factions. Feminism will go away as well, as the various immigrant population spread their cultural order, as money runs out for the gov’t gimmes and make-work jobs, as corporations struggle to maintain any profit and cut admin and HR to do so, and white liberal women will have to return to their actual tribe (and kitchen) in order to support themselves and stay safe.
We are already starting to see independent “law enforcement” groups cropping up. Chinese ‘police stations,’ local enforcement of sharia law, jewish shomrim patrols in New York, etc.
When the pony-tail-wearing, birkenstock-shod, tie-dyed groups of kumbaya-singing mental light weights who want to buy the world a coke, and their DINK allies exit stage left, the remainder will sort themselves out.
I expect that people in general want to live safe lives. To do so requires being in touch with reality. Reality often rears its head in unexpected and perilous ways.
Expect local enforcement of various cultural norms, and the absolute enforcement in intra-cultural norms within your in-group. Say good bye to Only Fans, mass shoplifting, cross-town crime, peacock atheism, and pride parades.
Nature WILL heal itself. And it will do so along religious lines.
So until the “ALL Powerful Boomers” die off all the TROUBLES of this Age can be blamed on them…
Then the magic of FREEDOM from Boomers will flood the country and a cleansing WILL OCCUR.
What kind of drugs are you on aside from BSing yourself.
LOOK into the F*ing Mirror and see part of the Problem there.
Another anon “Internet Tough Guy” spouting off and blaming others for his-her-its failure to DO ANYTHING.
“…big building that sits empty for 95% of the week.”
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They should have private classrooms providing affordable education K-12.
Some do that already, most don’t.
Simple Marketing 101.
Perhaps that is why the Nashville Shooter was needed, as the church that she/wannabe he shot up was offering education for the upcoming generation. Can’t have that now could we?
To respond to Anonymous and Michael above, I’ll say that it is NOT the Boomers or Boomer evangelicals that are the problem. The problem is our society in general.
Long ago when I was a freshman in college, I took an economics course from an old man who after he retired from the oil industry taught as a retirement gig. He said something that I have never forgotten.
He spent much of his life in the Middle East and especially Saudi Arabia.
He said that they have very little crime and most people don’t lock their doors—why ??
Because they (unlike us) do NOT tolerate crime !!
Crime is punished quickly and severely. Thieves get their hands cut off the NEXT day !!
Rape or murder someone and the victims family cuts your head off the next day !!
Thus the criminal types are dispensed with and commit no more crimes.
Those thinking about committing a crime realize the cost of getting caught far outweighs the benefits of the crime.
Now look at our society… watch court proceeding on YT. They usually give felons freaking probation which they almost NEVER complete and commit more crimes during probation.
Look at the case of that little 2G thug who murdered that white teenager.
Just 100 years ago he would have already been tried and swinging from a gallows. Instead he’s gotten a ton of money and he and his family are living it up in luxury and the victim’s father instead of getting justice on the scumbag practically apologized ?
This just shows how fucked up our society is with our tolerance with criminals as well as filthy degenerates like homos, trannies, pedos, etc. Only when the majority of people are done with this shit, won’t put up with it anymore and put people in power who agree with them will things change.
The good news is that IS starting to happen with the majority voting for Trump who is TRYING to fix things but there is massive push back. The key is to Anonymous’ point is to look at WHO voted for Trump — they are sick of this BS too.
The majority were MEN who are white, black and latin and this is a great sign.
I like your thoughts LG.
SNIP This just shows how fucked up our society is with our tolerance with criminals as well as filthy degenerates like homos, trannies, pedos, etc. Only when the majority of people are done with this shit, won’t put up with it anymore and put people in power who agree with them will things change.
History points out that you might have this backwards. Politicians DON’T LEAD. Leaders Lead.
Most examples of historical filthy degenerates IN Power are not voted out unless you count Pb, hemp and sharp knives as “votes”.
Afterwards new leadership rises up, after the cleaning work is done.
They say History is a harsh teacher, so few want the lessons, so we repeat the tolerance and act surprised when degenerates again rise to power as they are so good at lying in your face politicians.
When things really fall down, the song of the land is “Daddy I’m HUNGRY” and the grid is collapsing then the lessons of history will arise again. Sad but true. Weimar Germany shows the path including long knives.
I think the media is in coverage mode. We’ll see where this ends up.