This is not about whether voting is effective in 2024 or whether voting in 2024 is fake and gay (it is), nor is it about this specific election or the candidates involved.
The wife and I were talking about this last week, and just how much the way we understand and think about voting has changed in our lifetimes.
When I turned 18 I went and registered to vote, I think I had to go to the post office or something. It wasn’t a big deal but it did require a modicum of effort on my part. Voting was just something we did in my family, I have mentioned on multiple occasions that we were a very politically aware family and like going to college it wasn’t a matter of whether I would bother to vote but how soon after my birthday I could register.
I still recall going with my mom when she voted at our local elementary school. The gymnasium where we played dodgeball and learned to square dance was decked out with voting booths and it was all very solemn and exciting. You could feel something of the American experiment although I wouldn’t have understood it quite in those terms. On the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November my family went to vote just as Americans had been doing for the history of our people.
My wife and I talked about how we were taught to think about voting, as a civic duty, something we were expected to do as citizens of this nation. There was a sense of a secular sacredness about it. It was something you did as a matter of course as part of the civic fabric of America, in the same way you pay your taxes, mow your lawn and mind your own business.
That began to change ironically enough in the year I was first eligible to vote, in 1990, with a new organization aimed at getting the young adults of America to vote. Called “Rock The Vote”, it was started by a music industry executive named Jeff Ayeroff. Ayeroff is a standard entertainment industry leftist who wanted younger people to vote so he could sell records with swear words. It now poses itself as a “non-partisan” group that is just trying to recruit younger people to vote but they are uniformly leftist in their positions and are funded by huge corporate donors like Yum! Brands and Warner Media.
They would never admit it but the push was to get less engaged and less informed people to register to vote and then show up to vote. It got worse with the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 that offered voter registrations to people when they renewed their driving license. Now they try to get people registered at every opportunity. Any interaction with the government seems to be accompanied by an offer to register to vote.
Why would I object to that?
My general rule of thumb is that the less effort is involved in something, the less value it is perceived to have. There is something lazy and juvenile when people are offered an opportunity to register to vote when they have to be somewhere anyway.
On top of that is the endless hectoring aimed at people who don’t really have much interest in voting and who have very little comprehension of the issues they are voting about.
Do we really want the least informed among us to show up in large numbers to make decisions that impact the rest of us? Think about the average young adult in 2024. Do they seem like people who should be deciding issues that impact your life?
More broadly speaking, is it really “healthy” for a democratic system to have as many people voting as possible? It isn’t like it is hard to register to vote and with early voting and mail-in voting it is the equivalent of being spoon fed lukewarm porridge and if you aren’t invested enough in the process to put in a little effort, what are the odds you are invested enough to have thought through the issues? Yet these are the people that are endlessly being begged to vote.
If someone needs to be begged, cajoled, scolded, shamed, bribed or guilted into voting, that person probably shouldn’t be voting in the first place
That is heresy in 2024. The idea that some people who are eligible to vote maybe shouldn’t be voting is anathema. Nevertheless it is true. Call me elitist, that is fine with me, but outside of the online bubble many of us live in our fellow Americans are flat out stupid. Let me go a step further…
People without skin the game shouldn’t be allowed to vote either and even if they are eligible to vote they shouldn’t be encouraged to vote.
In short we don’t need more people voting and we especially don’t need to spend a bunch of time trying to get people who aren’t inclined to vote, much less to think about the issues involved, to vote.
None of that is to say that voting in 2024 isn’t fake and gay, it is, but rather to express some basic thoughts on the very idea of voting. After a lifetime of being assured that ours was the very best system ever conceived of, I am having very serious doubts. Spend a few minutes on TikTok and consider that most of those people have the same vote that you and I have. Then perhaps reconsider the whole idea of “democracy” as a system of governance.
I still have the little “I Voted” sticker on my dashboard from the last time I voted in 2016.
There’s no one who represents me, so why bother?
Regarding those stickers, in my AO, they have a new design this time. Gone is the basic oval with the American flag and “I voted”. Now we have a couple of divershitty themed stickers with multiple outstretched hands (on one), or smiling faces in a bunch of different shades. Given the new artwork, it should say “I got fucked outta me vote!”
And yeah, there is exactly nobody on the ballot anywhere, or for any position, who represents me. The whole thing is a jerk-off.
What else did you register for when you turned 18 that was your civic duty but also the “law”?
Hmm. I remember filling out the form during the run up to Gulf oil one. Even then the patriotism was muted. Nobody wanted to go over there. Thankfully 9/11 cured that.
The rock the vote emerged just in time to help put Bubba into office.
At the time all my commie college profs were pushing the “youth” angle. After a bunch of old stale males Bubba was young at the time. A fresh perspective. Cool. He played his sax.
Some interesting intersectionality.
The problem is now there is very little difference between an 18yo mind and a 38 y/o mind raised on social media and anti-White propaganda. Or a 28yo Mexican mind. Or 75yo nog mind. Or purple haired feral urban awful. The stoopid, it’s everywhere.
We are already in full retard.
Oh and all those “young” boomers like Clinton of the 90’s are now insufferable olds who will double down on what doesn’t work til the reaper punches their ticket during their third $120k hip replacement so they can fix that golf swing.
Then we get the millennials unmitigated. Diverse and retarded.
My litmus for the vote is that there be a Nation, as in a People, and that blood has soil or at least the proven mettle to take it and make it. We have none of the above.
It’s just gibs all the way down.
Clinton isn’t a Boomer.He is of the ” Silent generation” or as PJ O’Rourke called it ” The Worst Generation”. Born before the Boom.
notice that almost all of them are silents. Pedo Joe, Pelosi, MItch the Glitch, many many more. (Trump is technically a silent too, born in 45, means he’s not a boomer)
It’s like they deflected all the blame to the boomers
False. Born 1946, went to college late 1960s. That’s as Boomer as it gets. One could even argue he is the poster child for the American boomer.
Though I tend to agree with you and O’Rourke about the Silents. Which includes Biden, McConnell, and many other odious people.
august 1946 is part of the boom
Yep, I recall filling out my selective service form a well.
I remember when Bubba played the sax on Arsenio. That was when he won the election. I could never believe that people would vote for that shyster, but they did. Started to lose my respect for women about that time.
I figure everyone should have the right to vote. It is kinda jacked to think about the good people who would be denied a say under any restricted voting regime (citizens only, of course). I can also imagine several restricted voting regimes of which I’d approve, when they don’t jack me or mine.
But what I think would work the best is a gov’t program to pay every registered, valid voter $25 not to vote. Or $50. Or $100. Don’t vote and you’ll get $100 cash.
That’d clear out the imbeciles really quick. People who took an experimental gene “therapy” so they could get a donut. Broke people with no sense. People who are ‘better’ than voting. Give ’em all $100 to go away.
Then the vote would only be used by people who are engaged, informed, and have long time preferences. People, who, whatever their positions, are the type of people who we want to vote.
People who take the cash are people who don’t really care about it, people who are broke losers, people who have substance abuse problems, people who wold rather have cash than ephemeral approval, etc.
We’d save so much money in the long run, and we’d save the nation.
Since I no longer value the purported “democratic process,” and I no longer have any faith that the intrinsically-flawed process will be conducted in an honest and professional manner, I no longer choose to participate. I do not accept the lie that my vote ‘counts.’ My mother volunteered at the polls throughout my childhood, voting all those years in the local elementary school gym. I suppose I thought voting mattered when I first did so in 1984 – I was overseas in Nov 1980 and too busy/ignorant to get an absentee ballot. And in ’84 I was more motivated by my new and passionate conservatism than civic engagement in general. I think I voted in ’88 while overseas, I know I did in ’92.
Once back in the US I continued for a while – each year noting the increasing preponderance of non-Whites at the polls – both voting and volunteering – since our DFW ‘burb was heavily east and south Asian. And I noted how every local bond issue passed, regardless of cost or supposed goal – although I always voted against them. And finally I concluded I was being played for a fool, after volunteering for the local repuke party and seeing how and by whom it was run.
So I stopped playing the game. Yes, I broke my own rule and voted for Trump in 2016, but again found both local and national politics increasingly alien, seeing all the campaign signs with names like Chen and Gupta and Weinstein. And the more I read online from 2000 on, and followed demographic trends, the more I began to detest the charade of ‘citizenship and ‘patriotism.’ I give Trump full credit for personal courage and fortitude, but no, he did not ‘take a bullet for me.’ I have no faith whatsoever in ‘murkan voters – even the White ones. And I want the alien government and society of AINO to crash and burn sooner rather than later.
All fair points
I think the main reason to vote is to vote NO on bond issues, and new taxes.
Another reason is to vote out minorities, Jews, women, and anyone who seems lefty in the local elections.
When I go before a judge in a court case, I want him to be a white, christian, conservative male. Anything else is unacceptable. So that is the way I vote.
And, local, tiny elections that affect your town, property taxes, school boards, and daily life are very much worth your time and involvement. They are below the notice of the George Soros’s of the world. So you should vote to line your own nest. You can be damned sure that the local tranny-pedo-commie-karen is doing so!
You get any of that storm that hit down there Sister…
Lineman: Not really – lots of rain, which we needed, but minimal wind. Fair amount of thunder last night, but no loss of power. Ironically, my son (who lives in a house we rent about 45 miles west of us) lost power for a few hours and a neighbor’s tree branch fell and cracked his windshield (because he failed to put his car in the garage). We’re fine – it all went west and north of us – thanks for asking.
Glad to hear that…
Good points but of course the real problem is a too (all) powerful central government. Of course as we saw in 2020 voting no longer counts anyway. At least at the Federal level and probably at all too many State and local levels.
Within the system the only way that would peacefully (maybe) be taken down is through States retaking their authority (they can pass Constitutional amendments after all). However the State governments have also been co-opted and corrupted.
All roads seem to lead to ugly of some sort with revolution being the best looking outcome.
We will never roll back the expanded voter rolls absent some major cataclysm first
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the previous website was omega4america.com
Elizabeth Nickson has written an excellent essay about the subject. it is a quick read, very much worth your time. you will note a certain air of stridency in the tone of her writing. it is likely due to her impatience. her mum ( she’s a canuck ) suffered under the “ guidence “ of an MK Ultra shrink.
https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/inside-the-international-criminal
Best Regards,
old geezer
Honestly never heard the name
>Jeff Ayeroff
Of course he is.
Oy vey noticing
I checked but it didn’t have the telltale early life on Wikipedia but I still assumed so
I searched for “is Jeff Ayeroff jewish” and got favorable results. Seems likely.
Here is the fix.
Register in person, county courthouse with ID.
White, male property owners only. Can be verified at most county courthouses.
Repeal the 19th. It is time. It has been time.
That is the only way the system would possibly work again
Amen on that Brother but we both know that doesn’t happen before lots of blood and suffering…
Indeed. But the blood and suffering are both the consequences of fucking up, and the solution to the fucking up that previously took place. That doesn’t make it any better really, but the collapse is the only way out of the constructs of clown world now. And I’d rather die fighting it (soon) than spend 20-30 more years living under this bullshit with my nuts in bench vise controlled by the enemy.
It is the sensible solution.
This will also facilitate same day election results.
Hey man good to see you!
Voting should be hard to do. Perhaps a math question, and certainly identification of various contents of the Bill of Rights.
All of that was erased in the Frankfurt School faculty lounge Long March.
All that we have lost but don’t demoralized as nothing left to lose is unbeatable.
Let us be thankful that we lived through vintage legacy America.
Fundamentally Transformed into West Zimbabwe and destroyed from within just as Karl Marx pen pal POS Ape Lincoln said.
My wife and I also talk about the sham that voting has become. We’ve thought of a few tweaks over the years that seem to make sense: You are habitually unemployed excepting disability/retirement/protracted illness? No voting. Women voting? Not no, but hell no. Not ever (my amazing wife was the first woman I ever heard come to that conclusion on her own-she is brilliant). No real property? No voting, and if you don’t like it, improve your standing and buy real property, and bam! You get to vote! Of course those in military service and veterans in good standing would be exempted from voting prohibitions. “Voating” has become so accessible that people that don’t have a dog in the fight, have never had a dog in the fight and have no hope and little motivation to ever have a dog in the fight get to vote the same as a life long, wage earning, property tax paying, income tax paying member of society. That is not right. How can some fatass welfare sponge who eats processed food like a chicken eats bugs and then sponges free healthcare for the crapfood diet induced diabeedus, skin diseases, heart disease, obesity and whatever else, that is rent subsidized and spits out babies from seed donors that will never begin to pay child support, much less have a job have a vote that weighs as much as a citizen that actually has an actual dog in the actual fight? How is that right? Insufferable suffrage has caused irreparable harm to the country.
Insufferable suffrage has caused irreparable harm to the country.
It’s doing what it was designed to do, destroying the country…
Hey O H,
I envy you. I’d like to live in your neighborhood one day!
I agree with your sentiments, but I think the solution is much easier.
Just pay people money not to vote.
Nothing else, no restrictions, no categories, no nothing. Just “Here is cash if you give up your vote.”
Honestly, can you think of any general category of persons who are ‘undesirable voters,’ who would pass on a simple cash payment? The only category I can think of would be subversive Jews. Outside of that, pretty much every person who I would prefer not to vote would definitely take the cash.
What about White female property owners … should they be allowed to vote ?
No they shouldn’t be because that just allows subversion to take hold…
Correct. Not no, but hell, no. Not ever.