Speaking of White mass shooters, the shooting at an elementary school in Bend, Oregon fits the profile most normies think of when they hear about a mass shooting: A mentally disturbed, likely heavily medicated, young White guy shoots up a bunch of people because he is off his rocker. Of course virtually all mass shootings are black on black but the media pretty much ignores those as much as possible in favor of the very rare White mass shooter.
The shooter was named Griffin J. John II, looks like a prototypical mass shooter and killed 3 kids and a teacher before a White guy and parent named Kaylub Giamanco saw him entering the school (where two of his kids are students) and went after him, putting him down.
That guy looked like a loony mass shooter waiting to happen, I would be surprised if he wasn’t on SSRIs and/or “transitioning”. There are an awful lot of very broken young people in this country and no one is really talking about it. Fortunately Kaylub Giamanco is a licensed concealed carry holder, otherwise this being Oregon he probably would have been arrested for saving the lives of those children. Also of note, Griffin was using a pump shotgun, hardly an “assault weapon”, so that isn’t getting much coverage.
Anyway, this is one of those “good guys with a gun” stories the media hates and that happens a lot more often than they would ever admit so of course NPR being NPR they decided to do a piece with some “experts” to explain why you shouldn’t try to stop a guy shooting little kids.
Here’s what experts say about the civilian intervention in the Bend school shooting
You can read the whole thing if you want, it is incredibly dumb, but I will just pick out a few choice quotes….
DETROW: So what do we know about how often something like that happens? – somebody with a gun ends a shooting.
DIAZ: Yeah, so local officials are calling this bystander a hero. As we just learned, he is a father of two students at the school that just happened to be in the neighborhood and saw the shooter go into the school. And he doesn’t appear to have any law enforcement background. Experts say intervention from civilians in this way is rare.
I spoke with James Densley. He’s a professor at Metro State University in St. Paul, Minnesota. He’s also a co-founder of the Violence Prevention Project, which studies incidents of public violence. Densley and his colleagues tracked every homicide at K-12 schools in the U.S. since 2,000. In about 400 incidents, they found no cases of a civilian shooting to stop an attacker, so this case in Bend appears to be the first, based on his research.
JAMES DENSLEY: What we usually see is when a school shooting is stopped before the police get there, it’s almost always by someone with no gun. It’s actually usually a teacher, a custodian, a coach, sometimes it’s a fellow student, a child, that intervenes.
DIAZ: And he said, usually those interventions happen when a shooter’s gun jams or they are reloading their weapon.
DETROW: So this seems this could be a first. It seems like this person was – shot the shooter very quickly, and it could have been a lot worse. But I’m curious, what do the experts say about how people should respond in these situations?
Gee whiz, why is it rare for someone at a school to use a firearm to stop a shooter? Could it be because no one at the school other than “school resource officers” are legally allowed to have a firearm? They present this as a gotcha but in reality they are at least partially making the argument to have armed personnel at school to make them less of a soft target.
Defensive uses of a firearm are extremely common in America but you wouldn’t know that from the media because they hate talking about it. According to Grok….
Estimates of annual defensive gun uses (DGUs) in the United States range widely, from roughly 60,000–80,000 on the low end to 1–3 million (sometimes higher) on the high end, depending on the source, definition, and methodology. There is no single consensus figure; the topic remains contested in criminology and public health research.
Even on the low end of 60,000 that exceeds by nearly triple the total number of deaths from firearms (not including suicide of course) each year.
Moving on…
DIAZ: Yeah, so I spoke with James Keith. He’s with a group called ALERRT, the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center, at Texas State University. The group trains civilians and law enforcement on how to respond to something like a mass shooting. Keith says he does not recommend civilians try to stop an attacker. So if you hear gunshots…
JAMES KEITH: What we’re teaching people is get away, don’t stop. When you hear that and you think it’s a gun, run.
DIAZ: He said, if you can’t get away, do the next best thing – block an attacker’s access. That means hiding in a room with no windows, Block any doors to create a barrier between you and a shooter. And finally, if you can’t do that, Keith says, that is when you fight and defend yourself.
Apparently the cops in Uvalde went to the ironically named “the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center” because their response was anything but “rapid”.
As an adult, as a man, I can’t imagine running away when some loon is shooting elementary school kids with a shotgun. The shooter was tackled at some point by a teacher that delayed him and gave the good guy with a gun time to eliminate the threat. Maybe there weren’t any guys at the school but any man that would run away when someone is shooting kids isn’t much of a man.
This reminds me of the recent story out of Europe where White women are told to put their fingers down their throats in order to induce vomiting to prevent being raped. That is the sort of advice you give when you have completely given up on the idea of protecting civilians and punishing criminals. Sorry ladies we won’t stop a potential rapist but maybe if you puke on him it will stop him? Or maybe it will infuriate him and you not only get raped but also murdered. Genius!
To close, a most NPR of statements….
…They (the NRA) said this tragic incident reflects the importance of having, quote, “law-abiding,” unquote, gun owners, and that they still stand by LaPierre’s idea. It remains central to the NRA’s work in advocating for the Second Amendment.
But I also spoke with Arizona State University professor Jennifer Carlson. She’s a sociologist whose work examines the politics of guns in American life. She said more people from diverse backgrounds own guns now, and personal protection remains a core reason people decide to buy a gun. But Carlson said this good-guy, bad-guy framing oversimplifies deeper anxieties over personal safety and whether police can or will protect people, and it doesn’t actually address those really big issues and concerns.
Somehow NPR turns this into talking about blacks buying guns and distrusting the police. Heaven forbid we reduce or oversimplify people shooting innocents by talking about good-guy vs bad-guy. I love that this dumb broad does “quote-unquote” regarding law abiding gun owners.
I am old enough to remember when NPR was liberal but still interesting. Those days are long gone as they descend deeper each day into self-parody.