During the many years when I was a Christian I subscribed to what is known as “Young Earth Creationism” or YEC. This school of hermeneutics holds to an approximately 6,000 year age for the Earth in keeping with the timeline provided in the Bible through the death and resurrection of Jesus. Not because it made sense, it doesn’t given the fossil record and stuff like the Appalachian mountains that have been slowly worn down over the course of millions of years, but rather because I agreed with a central premise of the YEC school: if you start out by not taking the Bible literally in the first few chapters, it makes it much harder to take the rest literally.
My point here isn’t to start a theological discussion, feel free to argue in the comments but I won’t join in as I spent far too many years of my life arguing about YEC, baptism, church government, Calvinism, etc. and believe me I have heard all the arguments from every side of those issues to death.
The point is to set the stage for what I do want to talk about. When evangelicals talk about creationism, one name comes up: Answers In Genesis. AIG is headed by Ken Hamm and is the foremost apologist for YEC. I have been to a conference they put on and their material is slick and compelling if you are coming to it from that perspective and looking for validation. They also have a heavily visited Creation Museum in northern Kentucky and a scale model of Noah’s ark using the dimensions from the Bible, the Ark Encounter, that is visible on satellite imagery
The point of all that is to affirm the Answers in Genesis is a very influential group in conservative evangelical circles. That is what makes this tweet so grating and bizarre:
The replies range from sober rebuttals to….um, less charitable. This was one of my favorites…
There are other examples of course like sub-Saharan Africans having different genes from other races (emphasis mine)…
Human evolution was not a simple linear or branched progression but involved interbreeding between related species. Genomic research has shown that hybridization between substantially diverged lineages was common in human evolution. DNA evidence suggests that several genes of Neanderthal origin are present among all non sub-Saharan-African populations, and Neanderthals and other hominins, such as Denisovans, may have contributed up to 6% of their genome to present-day non sub-Saharan-African humans.
…as well as genetic diseases like Sickle cell disease that mostly impact blacks.
In one way the tweet makes sense. Answers in Genesis would affirm that every human being is descended from the original couple, Adam and Eve. This is critical to every form of orthodox Christian theology as shown prominently in a couple of passages (from the English Standard Version):
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. (Romans 5:12–14 ESV)
For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. (1 Corinthians 15:21–23 ESV)
Adam and Jesus are the two polar opposites in Christian theology. When Adam fell, all men subsequently were born in sin, doomed to die and condemned to hell. In Christ death is defeated and all will be resurrected, some to glory and others (most of humanity) to judgment and hell.
Showing that some groups have different genetic make-up and don’t share common ancestors, as is the case with sub-Saharan Africans and their descendants versus the rest of humanity, raises troubling questions. Again, I am not looking to get down in the weeds too much here on these issues.
What I would like to focus on is the photo Answers in Genesis chose. They could have picked a photo of a group of people of different races having a picnic or kids of different races smiling at the camera in a group shot. They didn’t. Instead they intentionally chose a photo of a black man in a suit or tux with a wedding ring prominently on his hand with a White woman in what is obviously a wedding dress, also with a wedding band.
This isn’t about racial harmony or some kumbaya bullshit about “one race” and how that should inform how we think of each other.
It is miscegenation propaganda.
A highly respected, at least in evangelical circles, organization is pushing a narrative that says to young White evangelical women: “It is OK to marry outside of your race” and thereby further dilute the White race.
Does Answers in Genesis advocate for a race-less world where everyone is some sort variation of a bland dark beige color, some with a little more cream in the coffee and others with a little less?
A more pointed question: does Answers in Genesis believe God erred when he created the different races and all throughout the Old Testament where he condemned intermarriage between Hebrews and other ethnic groups?
It sure sounds that way.
A religion that is badly struggling to retain current members and to attract new members really isn’t helped by prominent para-church groups pushing miscegenation.
I had never heard of Answers in Genesis – I don’t keep up with the latest ‘thing’ in anything, especially online. But that photo – specifically chosen – is very telling. I believe in the Bible – I believe in God – I believe I have been saved by Jesus Christ. But I also believe God created the races – plural – and never intended all of humanity to miscegenate. I’ve begun to heavily question the statement “We’re all God’s children” because I don’t believe 99% of noggers have souls. I find that traditional Asian culture (supporting your parents) is in direct contradiction to the Bible’s commandment to support one’s own household first, and leave an inheritance for one’s children.
I used to read the kinist site “Faith and Heritage.com” and found many of its well researched, well-reasoned posts compelling. I do not find any contradiction between my Christian faith and my belief in the primacy of the White race and Western Civilization. Those White activists who believe Christianity has weakened the White race are looking at modern, feminized, cucked christianity, which I reject wholeheartedly. That was not the faith of our fathers, and ought not to be what Whites teach their children. Just as some like to say “The constitution is not a suicide pact,” I will also say “The Bible is not a suicide pact.” Ironic, of course, since those same ‘christians’ who push miscegenation and total pacifism are also aghast at assisted suicide for the terminally ill or unplugging someone kept alive solely via machines. But then, logic and consistency of thought are not hallmarks of the average man.
Faith and Heritage was a great site before it went dark
I don’t believe in creationism either, but do you realize just how phony and hilariously unscientific the fossil record is. When you actually look into it it begins to look like elite-pushed junk science that’s sketchier than COVID. For example:
*They won’t let us see the actual fossils–the displays in museums are man-made–and the few times they allowed the originals to be scanned they were shown to be fake.
*Many species are built in replica form from nothing more than a single rock they claim is a tooth.
*Most of the discoveries were made by two elites (the relative of the Peabody Museum founder and the Quaker Oatmeal heir) and a handful of US military types digging in areas they keep the public away from. When you look into the “amatuers” who find them it turns out they’re all museum personnel or NASA employees.
*Etc.
I would provide links but everytime I’ve done that it refuses to take the comment.
It must put comments with links into moderation, I just approved it
Here are the links if the comment will take.
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/dinos-are-fake-plesiosaurus-idiocracy
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/dinosaur-hoax-nasa-rabbit-hole-part
Even burnt agains realize that the word “Day” in Genesis 1 is problematic. A day to us is 24 hours. What was it to God when he created the Universe and Man in 7 days? We know that the Sun was apparently only made on the 4th “day”. So, prior to that, what was a day? According to Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance, one word for day was 865 ‘ethmowl eth-mole’ or tithmowl {ith-mole’}; or methmuwl {eth- mool’}, which can mean heretofore; definitely yesterday:–+ before (that) time, + heretofore, of late (old), + times past, yester(day). So, era or epoch could apply, which is different from 24 hours. Which makes more logical sense. But, I think that the real issue is that the timeline used is from the creation of Adam, not of the Earth. Archbishop James Ussher, a 17th-century Irish Anglican prelate, is the most famous figure to determine the date of Adam’s creation, calculating it to be 4004 BC. Ussher based this date on a literal interpretation of the genealogical records and lifespans recorded in Genesis. And I’m OK with that. A difference in 100 years one way or the other is insignificant when compared against 6000. Some of the dates used are ones that we can trace against actual history, like the deportation of Israel and the deportation of Judah from the Land of Canaan. But, again, this has nothing to do with the creation of the Earth, so organizations like Answers in Genesis are using a false foundation for everything they posit.
Almost all Christians, be they Catholic, Orthodox, or some flavor of Protestant, have been deceived. They can never admit that their faith is just a game of Telephone, the actual meaning of scripture lost due to changes in languages, changes in the meanings of words, and due to Satanic deception that has occurred over about 2000 years. They assume that God would never allow us to be lied to. But, he does. He even sends “strong delusion” to deceive the elect, if they can be deceived. And God’s communication with us depends on our faith, following of the Law, and using the mind he gave us to discern reality, not mindlessly believing what the Pastor or Pope says. Given how the Christian faith is, and has been since the beginning, a political and financial entity, it is no wonder that today’s Christians will believe in a “secret” rapture, or that some human entity speaks for God about things like abortion or usury. Humans just want to be SEEN as part of the elect, and their election tends to be verified by whatever some other human has said is THE Truth, not the actual Truth itself.
Like I said it is only compelling when you already believe it, it wouldn’t change anyone’s mind
> intermarriage between Hebrews and other ethnic groups?
It’s not the same thing at all. Hebrews marrying non-Jews is BESTIALITY. Erika Sundstrom getting railed by Okakunle Abinagoye is more like a Belgian malinois getting bred by a bulldog. Duh! [for the, uh, unworldly, ES is a made up Scandinavian name and OA is a made up Nigerian name]
As to this particular AIG travesty, is it really surprising? I don’t follow such circles, but the overlap between creationists and evangelicals who can’t suck enough Hebrew cock must be huge. So my guess is that some de facto Jewish-run/influenced group gave AIG a bunch of cash, and this is the quid pro quo.
It is probably close to a one to one connection, dispensationalism is rampant in these circles
Haven’t been to a church in years. I felt off as a lil’ shaver at the fakeness of it all and parents didn’t force it. Only a state funded entity believes in half breed genetic misfires.
I admit to LOL over the Noah’s ark in KY that shows people partying down with dinosaurs.
It’s been a lot of years for me as well
A black-white pairing is not miscegenation, it’s interspecies mating.
One day it will be admitted that the negro is not Homo sapiens. That will be the change that is needed to deal with them as animals and parasites rather than ‘fellow humans’.
They are a form of hominid that can interbreed with humans but they certainly are not human
I never heard of this group before and it’s plausible I’ll never hear of them again, so I guess that’s the good news? Maybe their reach is not so much. Although I know someone who has visited the “ark.” So I’d sort of heard of them I guess, but not by name.
In the grand scheme, one more voice (or one fewer voice) promoting miscegenation is not important. Since there’s been a flood of such promotion. My white pill: its effectiveness has been limited relative to the tremendous, ubiquitous effort that’s been made. I’d say we’ve already hit peak mud shark, as a percentage of women. If that percentage was going to be higher, it probably would have already happened.
From a reproductive standpoint, probably the bigger problem than miscegenation is the young folks just not having babies period. There’s a white pill there too: the wog reproductive rates are also falling. Even in India and SSA. They have farther to fall. But it’s happening.
The lack of fecundity among Whites is going to end civilization