If you talk to average normiecon evangelicals and were not familiar with the New Testament, you might think that supporting the contemporary state of Israel is the very heart of the Gospel. Between the Israeli flags and misquoting of Old Testament passages, many Christians apparently think that the mission of the church is to go back and restore the Old Covenant system that was replaced by the New Covenant in Christ complete with a rebuilt physical temple and animal sacrifices, something that goes against everything Jesus taught in his earthly ministry*.
Granted, my theological debating skills are a bit rusty and it has been a few years since I have cracked open a Bible. Still I remember quite well the often fruitless attempts to get people to understand that the modern secular ethnostate called “Israel” is not the “Israel” spoken of in the Bible. It even seems a little odd that most modern Jews look more like Steven Spielberg and not much like the actual Semitic people in the Middle East. Almost as if They are not even descended from the same family tree as those who claim to have a covenant with God promising Them the land. The people getting bombed into oblivion in Gaza look a lot more like the Old Covenant Hebrews than most modern Jews. That and the fact that most of the Jews living in “Israel” today showed up in the last 75 years having been forcibly granted the land and displacing the people that were already there. That is OK I guess because God allegedly granted Jews that land in perpetuity (ignore the conditions set that the Jews repeatedly violated). It says so right in a book written by Jews. Convenient, huh?

Back to the difference between the Gospel and contemporary demands that Christians “stand with Israel”.
What did Jesus commands his followers to do? Not to “go to church” or “tithe” or “read their Bibles in a year”. No, his main commandment to be acted upon is found in what is known as “The Great Commission”.
And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
(Matthew 28:18–20 ESV)
Obviously there are lots of other commandments that Jesus and the Apostles gave to the church, but all of those other commandments assume that those receiving the commands are already Christians. The one and only commandment given to unbelievers is to repent and believe the Gospel. This is true regardless of the status of the unconverted. In Paul’s letter to the Galatians it is written:
Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
Galatians 3:23–29 (ESV), emphasis mine
This is a frequently misquoted passage, especially verse 28 as it pertains to the role of men and women in the church. Paul’s point was not that there are no ecclesiastical differences between men and women, he specifically wrote about those elsewhere, but rather to point out the universal message of the Gospel. There is not one way for Jews and one way for everyone else and Jews don’t get a special place in the Kingdom. What are the practical ramifications of this point that upends everything in the Old Testament?
There are around 10 million people living in Israel, essentially all of them “lost” because of Their absolute rejection of Jesus Christ. There is essentially no evangelization of the Israeli people. It is not really even permitted, despite the yammering of Li’l Ben Shapiro about “Judeo-Christian values”. The single most important mission of the Christian faith is the evangelization of the lost, and that includes Ben Shapiro and every other unconverted Jew. This is clear from the New Testament actions of the early church.
Not only that but many Christians donate money to help Jews emigrate to Israel. You see the TV commercials showing allegedly destitute Jews who need money to move to Israel. It kind of makes one wonder, since Jews are disproportionately represented in the world’s wealthiest elites and there are at least three dozen billionaires living in Israel, why exactly do these poor Jews living in Eastern Europe need the $20 contributions from some evangelical Christian living in Kentucky when They could all be moved to Israel by just one of Israel’s billionaires? Also, since it is next to impossible to evangelize Jews in Israel, why would Christians spend money to intentionally move these lost Jews somewhere They functionally cannot be reached by the Gospel? According to the New Testament, a Jew that rejects Jesus has the same standing before God as a Muslim or Hindu or atheist: they are condemned and facing eternal damnation and yet many Christians don’t even see a need to evangelize Them because of “The Holocaust” and the Inquisition.
Imagine trying to explain why you donated money not to spread the Gospel but specifically so that people can move somewhere they will never hear the Gospel.
What about the other side of the conflict?
As for the Palestinians, there are Christians among them and clergy trying to minister to them but most likely associate Christianity with America and America with Israel. I wouldn’t imagine that some American missionaries coming around talking about how Jesus loves them in the midst of the rubble that used to be their home, courtesy of bombs provided by Americans claiming to follow that same Jesus, get a warm reception for their message.
The Middle-East and Islamic world in general? There are close to 2 billion people who follow Islam, or around one quarter of the population of the world. All of them are by definition unbelievers and lost even though Islam respects Jesus far more than Judaism. For most Muslims I would imagine that they hold the same linkage in their mind between Christianity, America and Israel. I can’t imagine that American evangelical support for Israel is helpful for the work of missionaries. I would make an even bolder statement:
American evangelical’s unconditional support for Israel has caused irreparable harm to the witness of the Christian church among the world’s 2 billion plus Muslims.
Very few if any average evangelicals have given this much thought and fewer still are the serious and sober-minded Christian leaders and thinkers who have done so. In fact even questioning the relationship between the Christian church and the unbelieving, openly hostile to the Gospel secular state of Israel is enough to get a frothing-at-the-mouth response from most American evangelicals. The Christian church in America has by and large subsumed the Gospel mission to a secondary place behind support for a nation of unbelievers.
This is not a new position for me. Way back in the days when I was a Christian I wrote about this topic frequently. You can read a couple of samples here: Keeping The Issues Clear When Talking About Contemporary Israel, and here from 10 years ago: Repost: Israel, Gaza and the Gospel.
Nowhere else in the world do you see the same sort of slavish, unthinking devotion to Israel that you find in America and that devotion is driven largely by the dispensational school of theology that in terms of the Christian church is a very recent movement but one that now dominates evangelicalism. From Theopedia:
Dispensationalism is a theological system that teaches biblical history is best understood in light of a number of successive administrations of God’s dealings with mankind, which it calls “dispensations.” It maintains fundamental distinctions between God’s plans for national Israel and for the New Testament Church, and emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and a pre-tribulation rapture of the church prior to Christ’s Second Coming. Its beginnings are usually associated with the Plymouth Brethren movement in the UK and the teachings of John Nelson Darby.
https://www.theopedia.com/dispensationalism
In short, there are two different plans for salvation, one for the Jews and one for the Gentiles. This is in stark contrast to the New Testament but it still has an incredibly powerful hold on many Christians. You often will see dispensational teachers with those goofy, incredibly ornate charts of “The End Times” that usually involve tortured exegesis and convoluted linkages between Old and New Testament passages. I would say very few serious thinkers in the Christian church subscribe to dispensationalism, John MacArthur being a notable exception, but it appeals to rank-and-file Christians.
Thanks to a relatively new and deeply flawed theological system that has been inextricable combined with conservative politics, the Gospel witness of Christians around the world is deeply damaged especially as it concerns the Muslim world but also non-Muslims around the globe who by and large are opposed to the war crimes being carried out by Israel on the civilian population of Gaza.
In short…
Not only is “standing with Israel” not the Gospel, it is at odds with and the very antithesis of the Great Commission mission of the church to reach the lost with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
This is doubly odd as most American Jews are far less supportive of Zionism than American Christians and those same Jews vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats despite the endless pandering by Republicans to the state of Israel.
What I see as the crux of the matter is something I realized a long time ago: very few American Christians have more than a simplistic understanding of their own professed faith and few even really believe what they claim to believe based on what they say and more importantly what they do. If Christians were really concerned about “spreading the Gospel” they would be hesitant to take sides in a squabble over land that has been going on for thousands of years and instead would focus on preaching the risen Christ to both sides of the conflict.
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*Disclaimer: I don’t believe in the supernatural claims of the Bible, either Testament, nor that it was divinely inspired. This post is not intended as a comprehensive theological statement*
winterwatch.net “97.5 percent of judaics living in israel have no hebrew dna”
shhh…don’t tell the “Christians” that think that they get extra credit for supporting, even cheering, lying, blasphemous impostors. “It is by your faith you are saved, and not through works so that no man should boast.” So extra credit to get to Heaven? Um, no. And, “…I know the blasphemy of those that say they are jews but are not, and do lie.” -Rev 2:9. Father knows who is who and khazarian devil worshippers will never be God’s chosen people. Eth ha adam-ruddy faced man-eighth day creation to care for The Garden, through whom King David and then The True David would come. Hebrews and James shed light on the matter. Isaac’s sons. Saxons. King Zedekiah’s daughter, Scota, her sister Tamar and Jeremiah were whisked to the British Isles to escape the destruction of Judah, and the crown of Scotland traces its lineage back to King David. The tribe of Dan settled in Danmark, which we know as Denmark. The prophet Jeremiah was buried in Ireland. The loosely termed British Israelite movement, mocked widely by academia, there is more proof than disproof of who the descendants of the ancient Israelites actually are, they role they have played in creating the western world, and who do the khazarian, fake jews hate the most? Whites. Why? The Scoville Bible, tainted and promoted by freemasons in its day, played a huge role in misleading the Christian world about the satanic, khazarian jews, promoting them as God’s Chosen People. Modern “jews” want whites dead and their lawless and wicked behavior causes people to blaspheme God. As ANON2 states, the vast majority of the population of modern Israel have no genetic link to the ancient Israelites. Those there that do have such lineage are treated as second class citizens.
What source of DNA are they using for Hebrew to test the Israelis’ against?
Ancient burial sites. A 2001 study by Dr. Ariella Oppenheim from Hebrew University confirmed the Khazar hypothesis.
I’ve found to very effective to talk about the Talmud, and what it says about Christ, to my friends at church. A little at a time goes a looooong way. Most of them only think that the jews haven’t accepted Christ. They don’t realize that they absolutely reject and HATE Him.
What part of “boiling in a vat of shit for all eternity” do they not understand?
Most of them are completely unaware of it. You can’t go to the local Barnes n Noble and pick up a copy of the Talmud.
However, once they are shown it and start putting two and two together…
Those conversations require a gentle (gentile?) touch, that topic is a difficult one to have but I am glad you are making some headway.
It’s all about your approach and giving it time.
Tel Aviv is consistently named the gayest city on earth. Can’t imagine God is happy with that.
Thank you for this. I’m struggling with these issues.
You’re welcome, like I said it is something I have been thinking and writing about for some time and it is one of the most difficult to have an open conversation about
If I may, sir…what prompted you to leave the faith?
I told my pastor what I think of jews and I thought he was going to have a stroke! lol. Then I told him why. Maybe I opened his eyes, but I doubt it. I am kind of waiting. Should I move on or wait and see. I guess it is up to him.
The conditioning is tough to break
A traditional bris is very eye-opening to them.
My ol’ gray haired Mammy used to say, “It’s impolite to talk to others about politics and religion.”, and I remember a time when they weren’t spoken about much.
Jump ahead 50 or so years and both politics and religion are all the bobbing heads can talk about now.
I’m mostly anti all religions especially when people wave them in my face. I just don’t GAF. But when people insist on making a big deal out of it I just want to punch them in the face.
Israel? Ukraine? They are way over there, and there are more important threats within 10-20 miles from here that get my attention. I have no more fux to give.
I honestly don’t wish Israel or Ukraine or Congo any ill will, I just don’t want to have to see White kids dying to fight Their wars.
The wave of support from Dispensationalist churches across the evangelical spectrum after the Oct 7 Hamas attacks was truly nauseating. I had been trying the “inside man” method of dropping facts about the Talmud and what modern Judaism really is, but recent events brought things to a head and I had to leave my church. This was a very difficult decision as this church and pastor aligned perfectly with me in every other way and they were very good and nice people overall, the church didn’t have the cliques you find in so many churches as the pastor wouldn’t tolerate that kind of behavior and rooted it out.
Further study has led me to believe that Dispensationalism rises to the level of heresy and is actively harming the Christian church in the US. I don’t use that word lightly, but considering that the Talmud was created by the Pharisees after the fall of the Second Temple in AD70, whom Jesus called the “Synagogue of Satan,” I think it is absolutely a correct label. I now simply will not tolerate these doctrines and call them out immediately whenever I hear them discussed.
1 John 2:23: Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
I don’t know why anyone needs more than that verse to totally discredit the idea that the Jews have a “special deal” with God. It states it in plain language that can’t be worked around even with torturous exegesis. Anyone who expresses Dipensationalist views, I call them out to study and pray on this single verse and ask them how they can square their doctrine with that single plain statement. Not one, even with divinity degrees, has ever gotten back to me on that. They can explain Dispensationalism in depth, but they can’t square it with that verse.
And it’s not that that verse is particularly special, it just states in the plainest language of all of the New Testament books the exact same thing that runs as a thread through all of it.
The jews of the Second Temple period and right up through today, led by the Pharisees, hated Jesus then and hate him today because He took away their status as “special people of God” and their ego cannot accept this.
I found a new church under the banner of “Reformed” theology which squares with the Council of Nicea and the original tenets of Protestantism before it was corrupted by Zionists. Now all I have to do is teach them about prepping, which is a much easier task than trying to root out Dispensationalism.
What is truly frustrating is that just avoiding the worship of the Chosenites has absolutely zero impact on any other tenet of Christian faith, no matter what stripe/church/denomination/ecclesial community from which one may hail.
The overall obsession by some of these outfits really makes them look cultish and demonic.
I have a gaggle of friends I simply won’t talk to anymore because of this. They’ll find a way to inject whatever is going on in the “Land of our Lord” at some point in the conversation.
I won’t endorse genocide. They’ll embrace it, but only for The Chosen People…. I suggested we adopt the same techniques Israel uses on the Palestinians on our feral inner city homo erectus problem. Oh MY- no matter how redneck they might be, NONE of them would even think of that, because other people would consider them racist- and that’s the worst thing in the world, doncha know. I hope the Eff Bee Eye takes note of that amazing factoid.
It requires a willful ignorance of the comprehensive teachings of Christianity for sure
It definitely is would be considered a heretical teaching for all of Christian history up until recent years when suddenly it is the only way of thinking about the issue
Good post – but I honestly don’t know what will break the conditioning. I’m exceedingly careful about what I say in Bible study, and since we are studying Romans, we’re dealing with a lot of those difficult verses, especially about ‘obeying’ ‘legitimate’ civil authority. And the false worship of pseudo ‘Judeo-Christianity’ is all too often combined with a worship of AINO’s founding documents as divinely inspired. This, in turn, makes the act of voting some sort of religious duty. I just avoid the whole thing now. In my heart, my Christian beliefs do not contradict my political and racial beliefs, and I’m just not willing to debate the issue with anyone any longer.
It really is fun to quote John 14:6 and then ask why “we” make a special exception for the big nose people.
There aren’t many churches where those conversations can even be had without getting the boot.
I personally have zero religiosity. Not meant as bragging or as an “in your face”. Considering how widely prevalent religiosity is, my lack of any religious impulse might be like color blindness. But anyway, the point is that I’m not a partisan nor supporter of any particular religion.
That said, isn’t it interesting that Christianity is evangelical, as is Islam. But Judaism by and large is not. Commonly, a person wanting to convert is told (essentially) “It’s difficult to convert. If you like our laws and customs then just follow them, and we’ll all be happy.” Christianity and Islam are universalist, Judaism is not. It’s tied to an ethnic identity. (I’m deliberately ignoring the Khazar business here. Genetics is not relevant to this issue of worldview and perception. I’m also not going to get into how “Jewishness” is inconsistently defined. It can be either an ethnic identity or a religious one. The definition changes moment by moment, depending on which is most advantageous for the situation. For example: “Oh, Sex Criminal isn’t a Practicing Jew, so he’s not one of us.” But an article in their own press about “Jewish power in Hollywood” proudly lists Sex Criminal as a mover and shaker. So which is it?)
Anyway, the harder core Muslims (or Christians) would despise me as an infidel. The other Abrahamic group considers me a subhuman outsider. But if I say the shahada sincerely (or accept Christ as my savior) then I become a brother in Islam (or in Christ). On the other hand, it doesn’t matter how much circumcised duck (thanks, spelcuhck) I suck, I’ll always be a subhuman outsider. Not sure what the theological implications are, but the practical ones seem quite clear, even to a nonbeliever like me. How can this not be clear to the average American Evangelical?
They freed a guilty man just so they could crucify the son of God. End of story, full stop. There is no salvation for jews, they are all damned without exception. Not only did they (repeatedly) break their covenant with their God, they killed his kid too. And they didn’t even have the balls to do it with their own hands, they tricked the goyim into doing it.
Tricking the wops into crucifying the Lord… the most Jewish chutzpah thing ever done.
Jews tend to hate evangelicals, which is the irony in all of this.
It’s sadly hilarious. The Chosenites are, however, THRILLED to take their money and/or labor. I saw a news story on some well-meaning evangelical protestants traveling on their own dime to assist a vineyard with their harvest. A for-profit vineyard. To work for free, ‘cuz th’ Rapture n stuff.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
I am not sure it is even hate, They mostly seem to treat evangelicals as especially stupid pets. I am sure They laugh like crazy when They get donations from old White Christians to help relocate Jews.
@3g4me, if your church is absolutely committed to Paul, might I recommend Acts 17:26, I think, with special emphasis on the very last phrase, where Paul says God Himself set the boundaries of nations. So if one leaves his nation, he’s sinning against God?
@Farmer, I always find that part interesting. They actually had someone named BarAbbas? Quite the coincidence, that, what with the crowd calling out to release the Son of the Father. (bar: son, abba/abu: father)
Is there anyone besides myself who wonders about the massively overused term, “judeo-christian”?
As in, “America was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles, yada yada……”
Near as I can tell this is folklore, designed and perpetuated by (((them))).
What did (((they))) do for early America?
Well, they owned/invested in merchant ships for profit (OK) and for bringing low IQ farm equipment to our shores (an ongoing biological time bomb of limitless negative effect).
And they insinuated themselves into banking and government like chiggers burrowing under skin.
So, when I see the term “Judeo-Christian” I begin to barf a little in my mouth…….
It is, indeed, both sickening and annoying and I have become an even bigger asshole correcting people who use it in my presence.
The jews were thrown out of the territory of Israel by the Romans about 1.800 years ago – give or take.
The say they have a right to return and that this territory is theirs.
Do you know their opinion about others?
After 1945 about 15 million germans were thrown out of the German eastern territories (Silesia, Sudeten, Prussia). When one of their leaders – about 1 to 2 decades ago – mentioned they have a right to return the then deputy of the chairman of the jews in Germany said that they did not have a right to return.
And besides: They call themselves jews in Germany but not German jews.
Its been a fraud since Judah stole the name of Israel, its not even just the Khazarian “name stealers”, grifters, grafters, gypsy criminals that all converted to Judaism in 600 ish AD, the Judaism which didnt emerge until like 200 AD, and here we are.
Great write up, you nailed it all and stuck the landing, I just felt compelled to say the bit that goes back to Judah and Israel, its the initial deception, and Abraham isnt jewish.
The closing statement is the hardest part of any post for me, so thanks for that.
Why any White Men of European Background still have anything to do with the ‘Abrahamic’ religions at this point is rather Inexplicable to me. The Cartoon (AI generated) above neatly points out the Root of the Problem; a sand-nigger ‘religion’, worshiping various iterations of ‘gods’ that uniformly endorse Genocide, Child Molesting, and all forms anti-Life Depravity. Do some research into the subject of what the German NaSDAP had to say about this Invasive, anti-White ‘culture’, and the need for its Removal from White Nations.
Bravo, well said! They still can’t come to grips with the fact that they’re worshiping semitic desert rats that have nothing in common with the White race. The amount of self-righteous coping and denial exhibited by this bunch is mind bending!
That is one of the puzzling things, we are told about “Judeo-Christian” morality but the Jews are some of the most immoral people in the Bible.
“judeo-christian morality” is how White Men have been Fooled into Fighting each other in the Wars fomented by the Ashkenazi ‘jews’. Their actions in taking over the Elected (White) government in The ukraine, then starting a War with Russia within its own Territory has already cost the lives of over half a Million White Europeans.
Now, the Russians are moving Nuclear Weapons into their Front-Line Units; this is portrayed as an “Exercise”, but I’m not sure if the term in Russian to “Exercise the Procedures to Issue Nuclear Weapons to the Troops” might not be read as “Go Ahead and Do It.” Consider, the Order to do this was signed off on by Tsar Vladimir Himself… does a “Practice Session” need a sing-off by the C-in-C? Deploying Nukes to a Combat Theater sure Does…